It's just like chess - Really! Article

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I don't think it's a matter of being dumb or not. Studying BZ would help with your understanding though

All BZ students know that the art does not rely on speed or power. There will always be somebody faster. There will always be somebody stronger. In the words of GM Yuli "I can not teach you speed or power".

When we practice we try to be slow but sure so we become smooth. If you can not perform the movement correctly super slow are you sure it will be correct when you ramp up the speed?

No matter how fast you move the 3 main concepts of BZ should be behind your movement - preparation, enganyo and monitoring of the opponent. So yes, naturally the thinking time decreases but the art is more to do with being in the right place at the right time rather than moving like superman. Also, you must have the ability to adapt your movements based on what the opponent is doing (the A1, A2 , A3 example) and not be like a bull charging at a red rag.

Simon.

[itsme]

I don't think it's a matter of being dumb or not. Studying BZ would help with your understanding though

maybe.


All BZ students know that the art does not rely on speed or power. There will always be somebody faster. There will always be somebody stronger. In the words of GM Yuli "I can not teach you speed or power".

When we practice we try to be slow but sure so we become smooth. If you can not perform the movement correctly super slow are you sure it will be correct when you ramp up the speed?

In my opinion it is good to practice with consciousness, but when applying the art, I am glad if a just react -- according to the training. I think doing things consciousness would be just to slow. this does not mean, that "preparation, enganyo and monitoring of the opponent" wont take place. But what sense would it make to remember every change of gear after driving home e.g. as long, as you come home without an accident and as long as you are able to react accordingly to an emergency situation everything is ok or what do you think?

[Admin]

Maybe it's just one of those things that's better to show in person that discussing on a forum.

What may help is revisiting my comment of initiating a number one strike and stopping say 7/8 from completing the motion. What will your opponent do and why?

As for your changing gear example here's one of mine. It is possible to cross a busy road and not look without being harmed. One day a truck will come and run you down. Meaning sure, what you are doing may work some of the time without thinking.... Maybe I strike at your legs and you "unconsciously" jump? Or perform some kind of block? It's "unconscious" right? It worked once right? So what happens if I do it again? I can hear Pavlov's bell ringing...

Like I say, I understand your comments and where you are coming from (if not the reason behind your posting...).  You are not a BZ student.  Nor have you had the experience of watching many instructors / students from different arts come here to the Philippines and to try and use speed, power, previous concepts, etc and quite frankly fail miserably against GM Yuli.

Now, we are (unfortuantely) all not GM Yuli Romo. The purpose of my article is to try and explore the thinking behind the movements and to discuss them with fellow BZ members to further our understanding. As most visiting students spend the first day in abject confusion I can not expect to adequately explain or change peoples minds on a (Bahad Zubu) forum.

Actually, nor should I try too! If you are happy with what you are doing and believe it works well kudos!

Just watch out for that truck...

Simon.

[itsme]

if not the reason behind your posting...).  You are not a BZ student.  Nor have you had the experience of watching many instructors / students from different arts come here to the Philippines and to try and use speed, power, previous concepts, etc and quite frankly fail miserably against GM Yuli.

I am interested in Bahad Zubu and trying to find out -- also with my posting -- a little bit more, whats about it. I am aware, that this it limited and a real hand to hand experience would be much better.

The purpose of my article is to try and explore the thinking behind the movements and to discuss them with fellow BZ members to further our understanding.

I was not aware, that it was intended as a -- more or less -- bahad zubu student to student communication platform. I will then take a back seat and may come back after some personal hand to hand experience.

thanks for your time to all of you.

[Admin]

I'm sorry you take it that way.

I do not pre-approve membership to this forum and it is open to everybody.

I did give you some examples to think about though and have tried hard to explain the points rather than say "It's BZ members only" and be curt. I would like to hear your thoughts if you'd like to stick around?

Primarily, it is for BZ students but also those seeking to know more about BZ with an open mind. It's just difficult because no matter how skilled a person (and I am not) is at explaining concepts of motion, you can never adequately describe it in prose.

Also, there tends to be a lot of natural skepticism on forums from other groups. This is not a "General FMA" forum so I don't view my role as Admin or an "online representative" of Bahad Zu'bu to justify BZ. It's impossible on a forum! Instead we are discussing the concepts and naturally it helps if you've trained them to take part in the discussion.

 If you do one day seek out an instructor I hope it will give you a frame of reference too.

Simon.